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   jbsuconik@aol.com

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The copy in black are answers or pertinent comments            

 4-5-2008

 

Hi There.
I hope you will accept this on my behalf for such a very caring and beautiful website that you have done.
I am with you dear friend that Justice for Animal's is right.
And there are many people in this world of our's that should not have animal's, Because they don't know how to look after them and don't treat them with love and understanding my very dear friend.
I would sign your GuestBook if you had one but you have'nt got one.
I visit your website quite a lot dear friend.
Bye for now.
Takecare alway's.
From A Very Great Animal Lover.
Joan Taylor.
England ..XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
      Hello Joan,
 
        If you visit my site again and click on 'Your write', you will see your message and this
        response. Thank you for being what you are, which will probably never change.
          Jack Suconik

 

  3-2-2008

I agree wholeheartedly with YOUR ANSWER ! And the photos on GOOD TEACHERS
are beautiful and very touching. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, YOUR SITE IS THE
BEST!
 
    I intend to put your words on the 'Your write' page for thousands of people to
    read, I believe they would like to know the authors name.
   
   Jack Suconik  
 

Sure Jack, go right ahead! Sorry I omitted my name, it is Pat Neskavich.You have heard from me before, I have sent you a few things I thought you might like (vegan poet, deer and bunny,etc,etc...)

I am aka dove5sky@aol.com .A lot of the stuff on your site is very heartbreaking, but people NEED to know these things,it is a wake-up call for the uninformed who have a compassionate heart and the potential to change and maybe do great things for the animals.I so hope you have an overwhelming number of visitors to your site,you certainly deserve to for all the painstaking work you put into it!.. PN
  

You, Pat Neskavich are some kind of angel, thanks for the prompt answer that will

    be seen on "Your write." Is 4 to 10 thousand viewers weekly an overwhelming number?
  
    Jack

2-19-2008

I too am sooooooo frustrated with this guest book!  Thank you for letting me know that you had problems signing it.  You are not the first to alert me to this problem.  I have seriously considered removing the guestbook and just leaving an email for folks to comment on my site if they so desire.  Considering all the problems I'm having with this particular guest book, and your helpful input, I really think removing the guest book is the best option.  What are your thoughts?  Do you enjoy signing the guestbooks of sites you visit, or would you just as soon drop a line directly via email if you have a comment?  Your input will help me decided the best course of action.

Thanks for letting me know about the problem with this HTML Gear.

Carrie, Carrie's Serene Moments

 

        I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT BOTH BRAVENET, AND GEAR ASSUME THAT

     THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHO SHALL SIGN A GUEST BOOK. I BELIEVE
     THAT SUCH AN ASSUMPTION IS INIMICAL TO THE CONCEPT OF FREE SPEACH,
     WHILE EXHIBITING WHO HAS THE CONTROLING OR WHIP HAND. THE BEST COURSE
     OF ACTION IS TO INFORM THEM OF YOUR OBJECTION TO THEIR HEAVY HANDED
     CONDUCT ENTAILING USURPATION OF YOUR RIGHT TO DECIDE WHO SHALL OR
      SHALL NOT BE WELCOME TO SIGN YOUR GUEST BOOK. A PLETHORA OF SUCH
      OBJECTIONS MAY HAVE A TELLING EFFECT. A GUEST BOOK IS A MEANS OF
      EFFECTING OR CONVEYING SOMETHING, AN IMPORTANT MEDIUM THAT MUST BE
      FREE OF INDISCREET CONTROL. ( LASTLY I MAY WISH TO PLACE YOUR NOTE ON MY
      WEB SITE, MAY I HAVE YOUR PERMISSION?) Permission was granted.
       
       JACK B. SUCONIK     
 

1-9-2008

 

   In a message dated 1/2/2008 3:40:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, wildlands@peoplepc.com writes:
Hi,  Your website is incredible,  I can see why you may not be willing at this time to add more to your plate.  The beginning of your website is absolutely beautiful.  I clicked on 30,000 chemicals as I was interested in this subject since I recently gave a talk on "eco-friendly_ cleaning products all of which do not test on animals.  I am aware of what is taking place in the 30,000 chemicals article.  But, unfortunately,  most people think that a product can only be declared safe when it is tested on animals.  Do you have any information on tests that do not include poor animals?  I also had a newspaper article promoting Seventh Generation, Planet and Ecover.
Unless we can come up with alternative testing, I fear the majority of people will feel overjoyed that these products are being tested.  Sad state of affairs.
 
If you ever wish to add global warming articles, please let me know and I would be happy to help.
 
Thanks for all you do for the animals.
 
Susan
    Susan,
 
     Your note must be acknowledged immediately, and I will try to do more so please be patient.
      I am quite sure that there is something on my site on global warming. Will write again soon.
 
       Jack Suconik   

 

12-29-2007

Hi "dancing Jack"! I am reading your book Animals:Why They Must Not Be Brutalized. It is very good, informative and very scholarly. And I already told you how much I love your website.Just one question-how do you deal with the pain of what our world is? I have a very hard time with this. Advice needed and appreciated. Thankyou.

 

Hello again ?
       I would  have used your name if I knew it. Your question invoked a new  insight that
   is my answer to your question. First example. World war 11, the Holocaust in Germany,   Hiroshima, and Nagasaki, and the atomic bomb prompted me to strive for a change that would
   minimize the possibility of a planetary nuclear bomb disaster. I can't believe my
   labors were successful nor can I believe that they were in vain.
     Second example. When I became aware of the universal human tyranny of animals
     I resolved to combat it, and have unrelentingly done so, and will continue in that
     manner as long as deemed necessary.
      The alternative to such action would be to go to my private wailing wall and pray
       for change which I don't believe would deliver.
        History is a catalogue of examples of people opposed to the status quo, and
         laboring to engender progressive change, think for a moment of what a hellish
          world it would be had they not existed. 
 
            Jack

12-09-2007

Hello Jack,
I just wanted to tell you how much I love your website.It is the most comprehensive one I have ever found. I have recommended it to some of my fellow animal rights friends. I admire you so very much for your dedication to animals and the wonderfully intelligent insights you provide on your site! Keep up the good work and bless you!
                                       Sincerely, Pat Neskavich

   Dear Pat Neskavich,
  
    Your warm uninhibited note is a wonderful way to start the day
    for this crusader. I must return the complement by noting that
    your words bespeak those of a great gal. 
 
    Jack

 

  12-09-2007

Hello,

  I hope you are doing well. I have always kept your site book-marked so
that I may easily visit it from time to time. I believe I have told you
before, in so many words, that I admire what you are doing. As I look over
your site again, I feel the need to say it once more. I learn a lot from
each visit, and each time--it causes me to think about the things that I
do. I am making more of a personal effort to stop eating meat, and perhaps
my efforts will help my friends and family to try and do the same. Thank
you for your sensitivity towards such an important matter.

Blessings,

T.S. Wilkins

P.S.-- I believe I already have two messages in your, "Your Write"
section. Would you please consider not posting this one?

http://www.tswilkins.com
 T. S. Wilkins,
 
     Your very frank note exemplified the value of an informative site about
   mans very cruel, and deadly behavior in the human non human sphere.
   The pragmatic decision to not comply with your request was based on
   the question-what is in the interest of animals? Your obvious concern,
   and inspiring words I believe, are the answer to that query, and must
   override your request.
    A very grateful Jack Suconik
   

10-27-2007

Hi Jack.
Thank you so much for signing my Tibby's Guest Book.
That was very nice of you.
It means a lot to me when people sign his Book.
And i feel the same as you do, about people brutalizing Animal's and Killing them it's all wrong.
I am a great Animal lover and it upset's me to hear of any Animal being treated that way, this should STOP NOW.
Very Best Wishes To You Jack.
Thank You.
From Joan Taylor.
England
      YOUR MESSAGE WAS APPRECIATED JOAN TAYLOR.
       JACK SUCONIK

 

9-11-2007

DEAR MR SUCONIK,

THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY TO MY MAIL,YOU WERE SO KIND TO OFFER ME YOUR HELP IF I WISH TO CONTACT YOU.

I'M THE HOST OF GROUP ANIMCORD ON CARE 2 IN WHICH WE FIGHT FOR ANIMALS IN NEED[AT THE BEGINNING I WANTED TO DO THIS FOR THE ROMANIAN ANIMALS IN NEED, NOW,I EXTENDED OUR FIGHT FOR THE ANIMALS FROM THE WHOLE WORLD.

PEASE, EXCUSE ME, IF I DARE, I KNOW YOU ARE VERY BUSY,BUT IT IS RELATED TO THE WILD ANIMALS FROM THE ROMANIAN ZOOS.

AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW,THE ROMANIAN ZOOS WILL BE CLOSED IN OCTOBER IF THEY DONT MATCH UP WITH THE UE STANDARDS AND THE ANIMALS FROM THEM FACE THE DEATH.

WE CREATED 2 PETITIONS TARGETING THE EU AND ROMANIAN GOVERNEMENT , BUT , UNFORTUNATELY,THEY HAVEN'T REACHED THEIR GOALS, YET.

I KNOW AND ADMIRE SO MUCH YOUR WRITING AND YOUR PROJECT ' JUSTICE FOR ANIMALS' AND I THOUGHT, YOU COULD GIVE US AN IDEA OR TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THIS SAD SITUATION OF THE ROMANIAN ZOOS.

PLEASE, FORGIVE MY DARING, BUT I AM REALLY VERY DISAPPOINTED FROM WHAT IS HAPPENING IN  OUR ZOOS AND NEITHER THAT THE PETITIONS DIDN'T REACHED THEIR GOALS, PLEASE, IF THERE IS  A POSSIBILITY, PLEASE HELP. I TRUST YOU.

THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL YOU DO,

YOURS SINCERELY, VERONICA LACH

ANIMCORD

  Dear Veronica Lach,
 
    I read your note a moment ago, and am unable to  ease your distress
    with an encouraging response. Your so called "daring" is admired and
    a thing to be emulated, would that I could be so "daring." Please don't
    let the world change you.
 
      Jack suconik 

 

8-25-2007

 

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS INTERESTING PROJECT FOR THE POOR ANIMALS, I PUT ALL THE ARTICLE ON 'ANIMCORD' ON CARE 2. I HOPE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO READ IT. THANK YOU, ONCE MORE, I'D LIKE TO BE IN CONTACT WITH YOU! SINCERELY, VERONICA LACH

 
    
  Hello Veronica Lach,
 
  Your initiative on behalf of animals is appreciated, if and when you wish to contact me
 
 whatever the reason please do. It may be a long wait before you receive a response
 
 because of the many things I must attend to every day. Again thank you for you efforts
 
 on behalf of animals.
 
 Jack Suconik

 

8-16-2007

Hi JB, I don't understand people, how they can be so cruel to the little animals that the good Lord gave us to care for. They are so innocent and so trusting of us and this is what they get. What if the tables were turned and people were put in the cages and abused by the animals. What a good thing that would be, see how they like it. They would say " we have rights" we demand our freedom" People act like animals are nothing, no feelings and no rights at all. Just some thing to use and abuse. Thank you for caring, Joan
   You might find "Logic for success" interesting on http://www.animalsrighttolifewebsite.com
 
Jack

 

6-30-2007

Thank you for your informative website.
I so love all God's creatures and can't take what goes on. The torture
sickens me!

Have you seen the Iams Cruelty website about what all has been going on
there? If not, check it out. http://www.iamscruelty.com

God bless you!
I pass your site on to everyone!

Joni  

 

  Joni,
 
  Your poignant note indicates who you are, and what you are; a
   compassionate, great person. I have the Iams story on my Web site
   at the bottom of page Vivitorment 1.
   Thank you.
 
    Jack Suconik   

 

6-22-2007

Please, DO NOT leave your animal rights messages in my guestbook again.  My site is a poetry site ... not a place for your grievances.
 
There are many things wrong with this world we live in.  I have faith that in HIS time, HE will correct them all.  Maybe more of us should look to HIM for the answers.  HE is, after all, the one who created every living thing.
 
I hope you have a wonderful day

   Please indicate how we can identify your site, and we will try to avoid it. 
DUPLICATION IS NOT DELIBERATE. IS INEVITABLE, IS SOMETIMES ANNOYING AND IMPOSSIBLE TO ALWAYS AVOID. ' DUPLICATION' HOWEVER, IS NOT ANNOYING TO THOSE MADE COGNIZANT OF, AND OPPOSED TO THE WHOLESALE TORTURE, AND KILLING OF MANY MILLIONS OF ANIMALS WEEKLY IN THIS NOT BEST OF ALL POSSIBLE WORLDS. WE BELIEVE A LESS VIOLENT AND MURDEROUS WORLD JUSTIFIES THE MEANS, ANNOYANCE NOTWITHSTANDING, WHETHER IT BE YOUR ANNOYANCE OR THAT OF MR. BUSH . I SUGGEST YOU SHOW THIS NOTE TO               " HIM" WHO ALLEGEDLY "CREATED EVERY LIVING THING" WHICH INCLUDES THE SURFEIT OF FAITHFUL FOOLS, (WHICH IS NOT TO SAY THAT ALL THE FAITHFUL ARE FOOLS)  WHOM MAY ONE DAY BE THE CAUSAL FACTOR OF OUR COLLECTIVE DEMISE BY FIRE.                                         J. B. SUCONIK

 

 
6-13-2007


Hello! I hope you're doing well right now. I just
wanted to thank you one last time for taking the time
to visit Risen Sun Poetry/Passion's Chariot (and any
of its subdomains) and for leaving kind words. I have
decided to leave the online poetry world for now, and
I didn't want to go without telling you just how much
I appreciate your inspiration. I hope you continue to
do the great things you do in life and may God bless
you greatly!

~T.S. Wilkins
~

Hi,

This is in answer to the following question you asked
in my guestbook:

" I have a question for you.
  I live in a world that seeks justice for the Animal
Kingdom, and there can be no shirking the facts about
ongoing terrorism for which we are collectively guilty.
Are you cognizant of our corporate and collective
terrorizing of animals in a profusionof barbaric ways,
and the resultant pain, suffering, and violent death
of billions of animals every year because of our terrorism?
My question is about an ongoing legal holocaust to
which the majority of people are habituated, do you
think that such permanent terrorism is morally
acceptable?"

As far as the rights of the animal kingdom go, I stand
specifically at this point:

I am against haunting animals for sport. It is
disgusting to kill an animal just to cut off its head
and hang it on the wall as a display. It is completely
terrible to haunt an animal for the thrill, and it is
nonsense to put an animal in a so called sport where
it would fight to the death. I do not support killing
animals for their fur to complete the process of the
lastest fashion statement, or just killing an animal
in general for whatever riches they possess. I do not
support the unnecessary destruction of the forest to
make room for some unnecessary man-made development
that would further pollute the earth. However, I must
be honest with you. I do believe in survival, so I am
not a vegetarian. I believe the body does need meat,
and I believe survival is different than all out
cruelty--which is certainly morally unacceptable.

I hope this answers your question. Please feel free to
contact me anytime.

God bless,

~T.S. Wilkins~

 
 I must take issue with your thoughtful civilized answer.
You wrote "I believe the body does need meat," a belief
 refuted by the health and lngevity of millions of vegetarians,
 and vegans, If my doctor is not wrong, and my feeling of
 well being is a criterion, you are mistaken.I have not
consumed meat* for more than two decades, dance and
 jog vigorously three times a week. Such facts sustain
 a  refutation of your belief that the body needs meat.
 I must also write that mistake notwithstanding, it would
 probably be a much more livable world with a few billion
 more like you.
 * Or fish
   Jack

 

6-5-2007

Hello Jack...you left a very thought provoking message in my guestbook, and you asked for an answer.  Firstly, your calling to save the planet's animals from torture, is beyond commendable, to be in this type of frontline must be an agony for your mind.
For my miniscule part, I do not eat anything that had eyes to see, do not use anything that has been tested on any creature.   I support IFAW charity, financially, but could not do what you do, could not witness these hideious acts, day after day, (although IFAW do send the most distressing pictures of hopelessness) without dying of a broken heart.  Put that down to being old now. Ongoing cruelty takes its toll on the human nervous system, i am often ashamed to be part of the human race.   God, if you believe in Him, gave us dominion over all creatures, have mercy on them, what  has humanity become?
I do not believe in any form of cruelty...i thank God for people like you.
May He help you and give you strength to continue,  Son.
Rosalind
   Rosalind,
   
  Because there are very many people like you I am not ashamed to be a member of the human race. And I believe for the same reason that we will one day experience an end to the brutalities of animals that are now a commonplace. Such belief make it possible to live in the world of misery, pain, and violent death while striving for change. That I will never experience the change is not important. This is a message from a man that does not believe that a God cares, or will help, but that only man can undo the injustice wrought by man. Jack     
 

5-25-2007

loved your pages..............may the *Angels keep you safe always*.
 
Blessings*****
 
Laura
     Thanks Laura, but the animals need them more then me.
 
      Jack

5-22-2007

   Jack, with all due respect, I did visit your site, and again, I appreciate your compassion for the well being of animals, but you haven't provided legitimate proof that we as humans have launched an all out war on animals.

  Even if you believe in the theory of evolution you must even look at the neanderthal men, and women, and see how they lived, and survived. They hunted, ate off the fat of the land... Meat is a great source of protein, and it's good for our bodies to consume meat. It's good for us as humans to hunt, least we have the problem of over population among the animals that it is deemed legal to hunt. Karla

   Hello Karla,

  Your statement is a non sequitur meaning that it doesn’t follow from your alleged visits to my Web site if you saw only a fraction of 450 pages and perceived the legitimate proof  of what you saw and read. Legitimate proof consists of evidence that compels acceptance by a rational mind of a truth or a fact. To cite but one example; the world wide number of animals killed for food  in 2001 was almost 48 billion according to the Food and Agricultural  Organization. This included 301 million cattle, buffalo, and calves, 12 billion pigs, 788 million sheep and goats, and 45.6 billion…These animals were not anesthetized before their throats were cut or shot or bludgeoned , and if they were were anesthetized , we are still in the presence of wholesale slaughter of fellow beings.My example would probably not be perceived as telling evidence of our war on animals by the average omnivore which is understandable, because we first make our habits, and they then make us.

   If a careful perusal of the facts on my site doesn’t convince one of the horror and injustice perceived I am not surprised or discouraged, because it is such indifference to the misery, pain and death of others that contributes to the ongoing hell suffered by animals, and people.

   This vegetarian perceives karla as one of the many a misguided primitives that is opposed to a world  without violence to animals, an attitude that may be reflected in the murder in our schools and cites. An attitude that  is a negative factor in mans struggle for a kinder less violent livable world.

 Jack B. Suconik       

 5-21-2004

    I'm sorry, but I have yet to see the proof that "we" habitually, collectively and intentionally commit terrorism toward animals. True enough there are some sick individuals that harm animals, but people as a whole appreciate, and generally love them. I'm sorry this is weighing so much on your mind to the point that you may be reading so much more into this issue. With that said, I do appreciate those that really dedicate their lives to the well treatment to animals. God bless you!

 

   THE FOLLOWING IS  A TRUNCATED ACCOUNT THAT
 COULD NOT OCCUR WITHOUT OUR COLLECTIVE
 TACIT APPROVAL. 
 
  9.8 billion animals broadly defined were killed for food in America in 2001 according to USDA's national agricultural statistics. And,
885.5 million animals suffered lingering  deaths  
from disease, malnutrition, injury, or suffocation
associated with factory farming.  
The world wide number of animals killed for food   in 2001 was almost 48 billion according to the Food and Agricultural  Organization. This included
 301 million cattle, buffalo, and calves, 1.2 billion pigs, 788 million sheep and goats, and 45.6 billion
 
Many   millions of animals   are  killed in American laboratories each year.   While it is true that the most commonly used animals are mice and rats, millions of animals from other species including  guinea pigs, rabbits, ferrets, cats, dogs, monkeys, and chimpanzees are widely used in research labs. These animals can be subjected to a myriad of painful procedures. They are burned, starved, irradiated, shocked, mutilated, kept in isolation,  poisoned, drugged, electrocuted, and he list goes o
 
 
  135 million animals killed annually, and  crippling, wounding and orphaning millions more, is what the American "sportsman" is talking about when he speaks about the "fair chase".
 

Great apes -- gorillas, chimpanzees, and bonobos -- are being hunted to extinction for commercial bushmeat in the equatorial forests of west and central Africa. A ragged farflung army of 2,000 bushmeat hunters supported by the timber industry infrastructure will illegally shoot and butcher over 3,000 gorillas and 4,000 chimpanzees this year. That's five times the number of gorillas on Rwanda's Mt. Visoke and 20 times more chimpanzees than live near Tanzania's Gombe Stream. People pay a premium to eat more great apes each year than are now kept in all the zoos and laboratories of the world. 

   Japan and Norway are killing over 1000 whales between them each year in defiance of a global ban on commercial whaling that is not enforced. Japan also kills tens of thousands of dolphins each year. Smaller whales like these receive no international protection at all and face extermination. Norway plans to hunt dolphins too

 Marine Mammal Science concluded that in 1998 the actual number of harp seals killed was somewhere between 406,258 and 548,903. As reported by Animal people, June 2001, of the many of tens of thousands of seals brutally killed annually: " Five veterinarians affirmed the fact "that sealers hook, drag, and skin alive up to 42% of the seal pups they kill

 Poisoning of stray - and owned - dogs and cats is widespread throughout Greece and it occurs on a daily basis. Those responsible for spreading around poisoned bait are rarely caught in the act and usually the bodies of their victims are picked up by garbage collectors in the early hours of the morning. The poisoning is often excused as a necessary and cheap cleaning up operation of the large numbers of stray dogs and cats which are seen as a problem. Some people fear the strays would ‘spread disease’, others consider them a nuisance, especially when their numbers increase

Australia

   The largest massacre of wild land animals the world has ever known is taking place in Australia right now.   Imagine this. A mother kangaroo with her beautiful joey at night in the vast outback. It’s a scene millions of years old. What’s new is the roar of a four-wheel drive. She turns towards the noise and is transfixed by a searchlight. A rifle cracks and a bullet tears a hole in her neck. She falls, in pain and unable to save her joey, who retreats into her pouch for safety. The first thing the hunter does is to search the pouch and, feeling a joey inside, pulls him out. The hunter tosses him to the ground and stamps on his head. The joey writhes in agony. The mother struggles as her leg is slit open and a hook inserted through it. She is hauled up on to the truck and slowly dies. The scene is repeated all night long. Older joeys frantically hop away when their mother’s are shot - to die a slow and lonely death from cold or starvation. This is the reality of kangaroo killing. But the killing continues. Every store, restaurant and cafe that sells kangaroo meat or skin supports this massacre. And they are all fed a string of excuses by the Australian government. Not one of them stands up to scrutiny.
 

YOU HAVE JUST SEEN ONE LITTLE ROOM
OF OUR PLANETARY SLAUGHTERHOUSE.
JACK B. SUCONIK

 

     People have been hunting for meat, raising cattle... to eat since the begining of time. If you'll read the story of Cain and Abel, God was not so pleased with Cain's gift to Him, but Abel's give was pleasing to God. Abel's offered up an animal to consume, and Cain offered up fruits, and vegitables. That tells me that it's good for us as God's children to eat meat. We're suppossed to do so.

    I must answer knowing that my words will not serve to penetrate a closed mind that probably must remain closed to sustain its erroneous source. I doubt that you will study my Website as you have studied a bible that demands that you “do not suffer a witch to live.” Two principles that existed before your Bible were self preservation and pity.  You exhibit the former but not the latter, which is prevented by the source of the former –your Bible. The principles create “a balance whereby one being does not threaten another being unless his own life is endangered.” I choose to live by these principles, and not by those of religious dogma.. Jack   

5-12-2007

Miss G

My understanding of terrorism is apparently different from yours. I understand terror to be a psychological state of fear and anxiety produced by violent acts which seem out of control of the individual toward whom the acts are directed. I have observed this kind of terror among children who were abused by a parent who came home drunk and beat the child and also in woman who were battered by a partner without provocation.

 Jack Suconik

TERRORISM ENTAILS THE USE OF TERRORIZING METHODS.

SUCH METHODS MAY NOT RESULT IN THE SAME DEGREE OF

MENTAL AND PHYSICAL PAIN IN ALL SENTIENT CREATURES,

WHICH DOES NOT JUSTIFY ITS USE AGAINST ANY SENTIENT

CREATURE.

 Miss G

In my understanding of the term terror, two conditions need to met--there needs to be violence of some sort and the abuser must inflict the violence in a way that causes constant fear in the victim.

 Jack Suconik

AN EXPIRED TERRORIZED VICTIM CAN NOT EXHIBIT CONSTANT FEAR.

 Miss G

Although we catch shrimp, kill them and cook them, it is hard for me to imagine the shrimp living in constant fear of being caught.

 Jack Suconik

I MUST AGREE, BUT A SHRIMPS INABILITY TO EXHIBIT FEAR FOR ITS LIFE IN NO WAY MEANS THAT IT IS NOT PROGRAMED TO PREVAIL IF POSSIBLE. THAT THE SHRIMP DOES NOT LIVE IN CONSTANT FEAR OF BEING CAUGHT DOES NOT MILITATE AGAINST THE FACT THAT WITOUT THE USE OF TERRORIZING METHODS IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CAUGHT COOKED AND CONSUMED.

 Miss G

This might be different for higher level mammels under specific circumstances. I’m thinking of monkeys in labs where there are ongoing, painful experiments going on, as an example.

 Jack Suconik

MIGHT BE? PERUSAL OF “FELLOW TERRORISTS” ON THIS  WEBSITE MIGHT BE A TELLING INFLUENCE.

 

4-24-2007

Sharing….

**People speak out and say the animals are treated humane in the slaughter houses, No, No, No!! They are not!

 I lived on a farm for so many years and lovingly raised all of the animals starting at the naïve age of 17, as I stated before hand fed so many when abandoned by the mothers and the sickly ones, with no clue of many of the animals fate. I have to admit the cows, pigs and goats were all named “all pets”. There is nothing more beautiful than looking into the big brown eyes of a cow whilst feeling some sort of connection, and crazy as it sounds the endearing feeling when your whole face being licked with one swoop when they show affection, animals can sense kindness, feel fear and pain.

 I learnd the horrific truth at nearly 18 years old when we rounded up some of my beautiful pets with no clue as to where we were going. Penned up in a hauler were a few of my cows and pigs. I can remember like yesterday even though it was almost 28 years to the day the ride, and how the animals were restless. Still not a clue as to where we were headed. We had sold several before and delivered them to the buyer, looking back I guess that was what was in my head. “Little Did I Know”

 When we pulled onto the property, not even 10 feet inside the gate the animals were fighting with everything they had to try and escape the hauler. We were still so far away from the building I couldn’t see it or hear anything, but the animals could sense it, “the fear” and I feel sure with all my heart they could sense the death of all before.

 When we made our way to the front of the building “still not hearing anything from inside” My animals were in panic, jumping on one another, vocalizing noises I had never heard, I remember such a heart sick feeling come over me when I realized where we were and was froze in my seat. I looked back in the side mirror to see my pets, one of my pet cows in particular staring back at me in the reflection making vocal sounds like cries, and her eyes looked as though they were filled with fear.

 The Butcher’s son came out with a cattle prod and repeatedly jolted the animals to get them off the hauler “The sounds were horrific” coming from the animals. I immediately was sick to my stomach, and begged them to leave the animals alone, but my words fell of deaf ears and ignored.

 The butcher came out to try and comfort me and told me they wouldn’t feel a thing; then proceeded to tell me how they do it to ease my mind. Well it didn’t!He told me that the pigs would be shot once in the head “quick and painless” were his words. But his son chimed in and said well sometimes we don’t get a clean shot and then we slit their throat while hanging and he just laughed. The same is done to the calves, we don’t shoot them we just hang them up and slit their throat to drain.

Before we left I heard the first gun shot and the other animals making such heart sickening noises, they knew they were next!!

As long as I live I will never forget that day, and the impact it had on me that changed my life. I didn’t stop until my Father removed all of the animals from the farm, I couldn’t deal with the brutality and guilt of raising animals for slaughter.

 The only animals that I know of that I would consider dumb are the 2 legged ones “We are” for thinking they can not feel fear or pain, and lack of compassion for their suffering. God’s beautiful four legged creatures are not, they are trusting, loving creatures. Just as that old saying “As easy as leading lambs to slaughter”… “Trusting!!

I just wish that the next time someone goes into a grocery store and picks up that neatly packaged “meat” for their dinner that they can visualize the beautiful creature that was slaughtered. But sadly many prefer denial and ignorance instead of intolerance.

 Once again if there is ever, ever anything that I can do to assist you in any way with your site please feel free to email me, it will be done as a labor of love for the animals.

Background images, re-writing your page sources that will be easier for you to manage etc… you name it, it is offered out of love.

 Many Blessing to you for all that you are doing!! Love to you through Christ

K
athy S.

http://www.havenoflove.com

 

4-21-2007

   Dearest Jack,

I am at this very moment working on a collage of animals and going to try to incorporate as many as I can in a banner. Again you are more than welcome to use the graphic, I will send it to you for approval before I display it.

 I have been back to your site, I had to step away after 30 minutes of reading, crying and trying to take all of this in, I am just totally heartsick!!

I’m one of those people that take in strays… play mom to the abandoned, just to name a few kittens, puppies, piglets, calves the list goes on that I have hand bottle fed, and at this very minute I have little baby sparrows in a nest under my carport on a shelf at door level that I’m keeping my eye on making sure momma doesn’t abandon them.

 I am so glad that you added “my write” but I have to admit I was so disheartened when I read Ginny’s e-mail to you that you posted “Journey of Love” and speaking out for all of us. I applaud you for the reply to her e-mail. In no way do I feel as she does, I never looked at your post in my g-book as advertisement “heart awakening” is more appropriate.

For this reason and many more… please add my website name, address, my name and or email, something to let others know how I feel, and what I have witnessed 1st hand.

 Many blessings to you for all that you